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Offline trashy

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Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« on: January 02, 2009, 04:42:21 AM »
I'll start off the Linux installation section with a few tips for preparing a computer to dual boot Windows and Linux on either the same hard drive, or two different hard drives.  If I miss something, someone please correct me.

For this example, we'll use and existing computer with Windows Vista installed, and the latest release of Ubuntu Linux.

First off we need to consider the hardware requirements.

At a minimum, you need a CD ROM drive, at least 4 GB of hard drive space and at least 384 MB of RAM.  Obviously if a person is already running Vista, they have more than enough RAM in their machine.  While 4 GB is the minimum requirement for installation, I recommend at least 10 GB to install updates and/or other software.

In Vista, go to Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management.  Most likely Disk 0 is going to be the partition where Vista is installed.  Right-click on that partition and select "Shrink Volume".  In the space where it asks for amount to shrink down, enter a value in MB.  For 10 GB this would be 10000.  Enter more or less depending on your preference, just be sure that it is more than 4000.  Click "Shrink" and let the process complete.  You should now see some free space next to your Vista partition.

Obtain and burn the latest release of Ubuntu Desktop Edition.

In the next step we will boot from the CD and install Ubuntu on the newly created free space that we made.

A few notes to keep in mind.

ALWAYS make a backup of your data before doing this.  It's a good idea to have your Windows disk handy in case something goes wrong.

You don't have to use the same disk that Windows is on.  Rather than using a separate partition on your windows drive, you can use a totally separate hard drive.  If that's the case, you don't need to shrink your Windows drive as outlined above.

This can also be done on a computer running any other version of Windows, however, shrinking the Windows partition would have to be done differently.

Finally, if you happen to be starting off with a fresh install of both Windows and Linux, I find it easier to install Windows first.

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Re: Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2009, 07:50:41 AM »
I am actually going to update my multiboot guide with todays OS's as well as Linux information, which will in turn require me to make a Linux install guide.
Coming soon (as it has been for a year now).
The old one is here:
http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/Multiboot/multiboot1.htm


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Re: Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 12:02:24 PM »
I am actually going to update my multiboot guide with todays OS's as well as Linux information, which will in turn require me to make a Linux install guide.
Coming soon (as it has been for a year now).
The old one is here:
http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/Multiboot/multiboot1.htm
One thing that I will point out regarding your old guide.  You choose not to install a boot loader when installing Linux because it over writes the MBR.  I can understand that.  However, you may want to reconsider your options.

The beauty of having multiple OS installations on a single computer is that you can choose which one you want to work in upon startup.

I don't know if you are familiar with GRUB which stands for GRand Unified Boot loader.   GRUB can boot just about any OS on just about any disk/partition on your PC.  It is also very easy to edit your boot menu to your liking.  What this does is eliminate the need for a boot floppy (does anyone still use those?).

If you would like, I would be more-than-happy to assist you with a page regarding boot loaders and GRUB.  I currently triple-boot Windows Vista, my custom Linux system and Ubuntu on my laptop.  The first two operating systems are 32 bit and Ubuntu is 64 bit (not that it matters).  I can choose which one to boot at system startup, and the configuration file is very simple.

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Re: Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 08:46:58 AM »
Oh yeah, I would/will have a boot loader now. The main reason why I did not recommend it fully before is due to convenience for me, really.
I always had my systems up 24/7. When I wanted Linux, I would push the floppy all the way in and shutdown/restart the system in Windows and it would boot Linux up (due to the boot floppy) and I could walk away and do whatever. When I was done, I just ejected the floppy and restarted Linux and wandered off... Windows came back without "selecting" anything.

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Re: Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 08:35:47 PM »
Oh yeah, I would/will have a boot loader now. The main reason why I did not recommend it fully before is due to convenience for me, really.
I always had my systems up 24/7. When I wanted Linux, I would push the floppy all the way in and shutdown/restart the system in Windows and it would boot Linux up (due to the boot floppy) and I could walk away and do whatever. When I was done, I just ejected the floppy and restarted Linux and wandered off... Windows came back without "selecting" anything.
Understood.  I do know that there is a way to customize the Windows boot loader to boot into Linux, but I really have not tried it.

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Re: Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 11:59:40 AM »
Grub works just fine as well as Lilo, depending on need.

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Re: Preparing for Linux along with Windows
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 12:03:50 PM »
Hmm, so how can i change windows boot.ini to allow my linux to show in that list for future reference in case I reinstall the OS's on this system because i may have an issue with something stealthy on my windows OS. I really dont want to have to reinstall linux again if i remove XP  pro